13 August 2010

S. E. Cupp is Not An Atheist

S. E. Cupp is not an atheist. This is my best call, given the evidence. For those of you who do not know who S. E. Cupp is, she has just popped onto the media scene lately promoting her book which claims that the liberal media attacks religion. Her selling point is that she is from the "other side" and thus her argument is more genuine. Yes, that is right, she is posing as an atheist defending religion. This is a noble cause, but entirely misguided. I almost feel dirty for mentioning her on my blog because the want for comment is too strong. It is impossible to avoid falling into logical fallacies, but fuck it! I'm making no claims to irrefutability. Read what I have to say and make up your own mind on the matter.

Her premise, once more, is to provide an argument from the opposition to defend the sensibilities of religion. Were there an actual liberal media manhunt on religion, we might feel guilty, but there isn't one, so her claim makes too much noise in a quiet room. Just like we liberals cringe when the Israelis beat up the Palestinians, we would not be too comfortable with a media blitz against any religion. But S. E. Cupp's claim holds no water at all. As LiberalViewer on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZkFqj5cX5U) points out, she's pulling her points out of thin air. This smacks of a hidden agenda. I also want to point out her perky demeanor on Bill Maher's show, which is reminiscent of Sarah Palin. Perky, but vapid.

S. E. Cupp makes no question about her "conservative" values, which is always a possibility for an atheist, but she is not sticking to the secular conservative arguments (small goverment, less taxes, more freedom of SPEECH). Instead, she sounds more like the neo-cons that are almost exclusively religious. In order to ingratiate herself with the natives, she has stated that she "aspires" to be a person of faith one day. This goes beyond "no true Scotsman." That ain't no atheist. When asked about what lead her to atheism, her answer was simply that she didn't feel like becoming a Christian. That doesn't preclude the belief in god, though, so we look deeper. She would later claim that she would one day like to be a believer. If S. E. Cupp is really an atheist, she is for the wrong reasons.

I've heard too many believers tell me that they were once an atheist like me, but they changed. I'm fairly certain that they were in no way like me. The story of many ex-atheists usually begins with them "rebelling" against the belief in God, like they resented having to believe. Eventually, they "wisened" up and fell back into line. This is not atheism, it is angst. Though the pedants will point out that atheism is only the lack of belief in a god and nothing more, there is an unwritten conversational definition of atheism that we all mean when we use the word. This definition encompasses a conscious certainty of the myth that is a supreme being. If you are really an atheist, there is no line to fall into. That is why an atheist claiming to aspire to belief is pure bullshit. That is why S. E. Cupp is a fraud.

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  1. My take on S.E.- She is mad a her daddy. He is not an Atheist and she mentions that fact in interviews out of nowhere. It's not as if the conversation led her to mention it. She just blurts it out sometimes. It is almost as if she is waking from some day-dream. She is full of it and needs attention. Sad for her but I would ask that she leaves the REAL Atheists out of her issues with her father..
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  2. Hey, I asked her about that in my interview with her for my podcast. She strongly refutes your assertion and thinks it sounds idiotic. I have to agree with her. You can hear it here: http://FreedomTorch.com/wp/2010/07/28/freedomtorch-interview-with-s-e-cupp/
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  3. Anon: I listened. I didn't hear any tough questions, such as for her to justify her atheism. All she had to do was say she was an atheist and you took her word for it. Furthermore, the assertions she found idiotic was some B&N reviewer's, not mine. Way to ask the tough questions.
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  4. Someone with balls needs to ask Cupp, on air, the top ten reasons she is an atheist.
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  5. I think SE Cupp not being an atheist is so damn obvious it is a no-brainer and not even worthy of discussion. What has irritated me about your blog is your comment, "Just like we liberals cringe when the Israelis beat up the Palestinians..." Speak for yourself! As a flaming liberal, I fully support Israel, as do many other flaming liberals I know. Hamas, a terrorist organization, is the ruling government of the Palestinian people, 99% whom are muslim. Read the Hamas Charter ratified in 1988. http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/English/eng_n/pdf/hamas_charter.pdf
    Israel is a 25% secular country with a fully secular Supreme Court. Hmm, which would I rather support.
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  6. Anon: Human rights are human rights.
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  7. And a country's self- defense is a country's self-defense. What do you think would happen if Mexico were to start lobbing rockets at us? Get real.
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  8. I can't listen to the woman speak. She seriously hurts my brain. S. E. Cupp is so full of BS, and such an obvious fraud its painful.
    Tho, it was pretty awesome seeing her on the Bill Maher show. /nods
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  9. SE Cupp is a liar. She is as much an atheist as I am a Tea Partier.
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  10. Anon, what about the Israeli attack on the boat bringing humanitarian aide to Gaza? Though this is just one example, Israel often has blood on its hands that is in no way incurred through self defense. Human rights ARE human rights. Period.

    To the original intent of this blog, well said. The first time I heard her blather on like an idiot during Maher's show, the dominant thought running through my head on a loop was "she is no atheist."
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  11. I reached the conclusion she can’t possibly be an atheist, too. She was offended when Obama did naught more than mention that some Americans are non-believers. She’s apparently upset someone acknowledged she exists! More at my blog post on S.E. Cupp.

    Cheers
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  12. I have watched Cupp on Mahers show among others. I am an atheist now after leaving 30 years of being involved in a Christian cult. I have never heard anyone who was supposed to be on one side of an issue talk and act exactly like they were on the opposite side. I never hear her say anything about religion imposing its beliefs on others who do not want it, or the separation of church and state or any base atheist belief. She only says "I am an atheist" and then goes on to defend every Christian cause,movie,book ect at the same time denouncing every atheist and atheist cause that exists. She is obviously a phony and a charlatan that has come up with a novel way of selling herself in a market where other wise she would be just another banana on the shelf among hundreds of others. She is a fraud and a scam artist and a liar.
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