It seems to me that there are two ways to live. You can either live a "moral" life, or you can support human rights. These two don't seem to be compatible and I'll try to explain why:
One of the best compliments that has ever been paid to me was when a friend of mine described me as one of the most open-minded people he knew. Coming from this particular friend, it was extremely flattering because his entire life and the people he surrounds himself with can only be described by that same term. This compliment got me thinking about how open-minded I really was and to what I could attribute that open-mindedness. These thoughts brought me to a simple conclusion: every bit of knowledge I gain about the world helps me understand it better and makes me less afraid of the things I find within it. Those words don't actually begin to describe all of the facets to my reasoning though. Like a series of lines broken up by gradual angles, it is a very detailed surface that looks smooth from a distance. Let's take a closer look.
In my state of having an open mind, it is my belief that a blanket policy of human rights (For a definition of human rights, refer to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.) is absolutely necessary in order to assure the best opportunity for all people to live the best life possible. While that statement should coax a resounding, "DUH!" from my readers, it is important to identify the opponents of human rights. Who would ever oppose human rights? It isn't like there are people who sit around and think, "Human rights can suck it." The opposition usually comes about through realizing that total freedom gets in the way of a higher calling. Basically, anyone who puts ends ahead of means is bound to overlook the rights of their neighbors in order to achieve their goal. Examples include religions that hold the desires of a god above the desires of individual men (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) and political states that impose collectivist or exclusionary measures on their populations (socialism, communism, corporatism). The fact of the matter is that human rights get in the way of most "big pictures." One man's utopia is borne of the restrictions he must impose on others from disrupting his plans.
Human rights are admittedly a very humanistic construct. They sprout up when people embrace their independence and bloom when they realize that everyone else is just as good as they are and that we all deserve the same basic freedoms in life. Any belief that we must sacrifice some amount of freedom in order to fulfill a "greater" good is decidedly limiting because of this simple fact: not everyone is going to agree on the worth of that ultimate conclusion. Common manifestations of "greater" goods are: morals, nationalism, and equality. We can see these manifestations at work in Israel, where Palestinians are being evicted from homes they've lived in for generations simply because the Jewish state claims they own the land (despite the area being classified under international law as a conflict zone). Sudan, Rwanda, Uganda, North Korea, Iran, China... on it goes where we see collectivist or religious states oppressing the rights of its people. On it goes that to embrace human rights is to embrace individual sovereignty.
And so, a word about morality: submitting your own individual freedom to what are believed to be higher morals is in fact not very moral at all. There is nothing moral about entrenching yourself in a culture of behavior, as your actions are expected, forced, guilt-driven and ultimately par for the course. I would argue that it is far more moral to act as an individual under no imperative. Morals can really only exist when an individual is free to choose to do good and they are under no penalty if they decide not to. Additionally, associating actions with a higher power relieves one of responsibility, which is unfortunate for someone seeking to be moral, yet convenient for one who cannot resist their negative impulses.
If morals are not compatible with human rights, what can we use to figure right from wrong? Science is amoral, which is what makes it such a good guide. When you listen to science, you understand that everything is natural. Perversion, retardation, addiction, homosexuality, depression, skin color, disorders and fetishes; they're all natural. They happen through understood processes in reproduction, development, stress or trauma. Understanding this means, foremost, that it makes no sense to hold such traits against anyone. Human rights and science go hand in hand.
Throughout history, we've seen the advancement of human rights progress from the abolishing of slavery, to women's suffrage, to the first legal gay marriages, and throughout the time line, through every milestone, science has been working in parallel to enlighten our dark prejudices with knowledge. Those pushing back against these advancements are the religious and the tyrannical, determined to have the world work within their ideals. As the reliance on old wisdom gives way to new discoveries, we find ourselves understanding each other better, our sense of compassion growing. Kinsey made it OK to be sexual. The Pill gave women more control. Evolution puts us all on an even playing field. There is no quarrel that science cannot diffuse with the reassurance that our petty differences are minuscule to the grandeur for the universe we live in. You can either hate your enemy of two millennia or you can accept your place on a time line of 14 billion years.
"Morals" are no longer necessary in a world where knowledge provides more comfort than mythology. It is time to embrace the rights of every human to exist, live, work and love.
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I disagree, though my thoughts will be scattered at best. Essentially, it depends on why you think morality exists in the first place that will guide your ultimate conclusion to the question you have posed... Morality is, to most people, a system of believing in the choice of the good over the choice of the bad. Perhaps you should have started with a definition. Or maybe you are saying morality is meaningless because it is individual to each person. Well the same can then be said of personal experience of the world. It is individual to each person, none can agree on the 'correct' personal experience to derive from a phenomena, so therefore it is meaningless? I think many would say it is exactly that individuality that gives experience its worth.
But, to try and come more to your level (the Judeo-Christian morality is what I imagine you are trying to get at), I do think morality is a golden standard that can be approximated by those who learn about which virtues should outweigh which vices/other virtues. Even given this understanding, rights and morality are not mutually exclusive. Rather, one is foundational to the other. Which is more foundational - the moral choice to love or the right to possess free will? Of course free will - for if you cannot make any choices, you cannot truly love. But perhaps I digress...
Maybe the chicken/egg scenario is more appropriate. Does morality result in the bestowing of human rights or vice versa? Well the fact at all that you believe we have human rights that are inalienable by the state, is a form of morality in itself. Essentially, your conclusion is self-refuting because the 'rights' you think people should have is espousing a personal morality, and yet you say morality and rights oppose each other. The assertion itself is one that weighs certain values and grants them as the best ones to have in order to grant 'freedom,' making the statement itself a moral one. No matter the case, it could be that your personal morality surpasses those rights which you believe the state should bestow (like one thinking access to healthcare is not a right but is a moral imperative) or you can believe the rights one should have surpass morality (like one thinking one should have a right to healthcare even though it has to do with comfort in life and not morality) or you can believe the two are the same (the government should give everything which we are morally entitled to). It is a morality you are espousing, whether you define it as such or not...
Furthermore, I am certain you believe that morality should guide science, even though you seem to claim here you do not believe that to be so. If that is not true, why were Nazi experiments on human beings wrong? Why is vivisection evil? Why are lobotomies inherently wrong? Because you have a standard, a moral standard (personal or not), to which you adhere, and you believe it surpasses the values of the 'amoral' science for science's sake. Simply because technology has given us the ability to do something does not make it right. Otherwise, why not test out some nukes on civilian populations to ensure our kill capacity is maximized?
Don't be offended, I simply think this post needs some work/definitions/a complete rewrite. But I am enjoying reading through some of your posts and don't mean to insult your intelligence. You are a thinker, that is clear...
Thanks.
Kev: Thanks for taking the time to write out this thoughtful reply. Here is my response...
I am stating that morality is subjective and arbitrary. I am not necessarily saying it is personal, but you can probably deduce that. As far as whether rights or morals beget one another, I don't see them as working on the same plane. Rights are given to us by our existence and it is artificial, man-made paradigms that restrict them. Morals are those paradigms. Though we like to see morals as positive things, I would like to refer to my point about morality being expected, thus making it not "moral" in the first place. Expectations are essentially limitations. I see human rights as the natural state of life, so that is my answer to the chicken/egg speculation.
As far as what is moral in science... well, we have these basic rights to life and freedom. That is why Nazi "science" is wrong. If it infringes upon a person's ability to live freely, it is not "moral."
How are rights bestowed automatically upon birth to humans?
Kev: That's just how we are born. Nobody bestows our rights onto us: if it were not for the restrictions we place, we would have the right to do anything.
Isn't that a little subjective and arbitrary?
Kev: Au contraire. Think of it this way... when you're a child, you do what you want until an adult steps in and says, "No, you can't do that." Therefore, you learn about your boundaries by what authorities say you can't do. If it weren't for that, you would assume that there are no restrictions.
"All men are born free, but everywhere they are in chains." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
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So rights only exist if an authority bestows them? I only have a right if my greater tells me I have that right?
I think this quote is more appropriate here: "I can hardly imagine any laws so bad, to which I would not rather be subject, than to the caprice of a man." - John Stewart Mill.
I think your argument is breaking down a bit here...
Kev, I thought I was making myself MORE clear, but it appears you're not understanding what I am trying to say.
Step 1: Men are born with all rights.
Step 2: Society restricts those rights.
That is what I am trying to get at.
I see. But what I am asking is: why are humans alone born with rights? Why are they born with rights as opposed to conceived with rights? Who decides what rights they own?
Kev: Why are they born with all rights? I suppose that is a complicated question to answer. Nature doesn't operate on the question of "Why?" It just IS. Nobody decides these things: they should be self-evident. Now, as to the question of what rights.. well, imagine a man's domain (his rights) as a sphere that surrounds him. Now, extend that sphere as far as possible until it can go no further without infringing upon another man's sphere. I'm sorry, I'm all out of simple ways to explain this, we're going into complicated territory.
I don't think the question should be "Why are men born with rights?" Here's what I think it should be: "Why do men restrict the rights of others?"
I really wish I had a better way of saying all this.
I see. Topic of another post, perhaps. Thanks for the discussion.
Morals and rights are not mutually exclusive. What we call 'rights' only exist through inductive reasoning (e.g. killing another is morally wrong therefore there is a right to life.) or societal forces. Ethics are the man-made constructs of morals that can be subjective. So morals are imbued from the time of whenever (conception/birth/consciousness/whatever) and ethics are the subjective reasonings that we apply to them. It is morally wrong to kill another EXCEPT WHEN *insert subjective reason here*. Certain 'rights', however, are wholly man made constructs; the 'right' to privacy, the 'right' to practice religion, and the 'right' habeas corpus among others. With two levels, one based on morals the other based on man-made constructs, you have to differentiate between the individual and the group/society (individual=moral, group/society=rights).
Sorry for my ramblings, but I disagree with you in that morals and human rights are mutually exclusive.
Thanks for making me think.
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