I just had one of the most bizarre conversations about the existence (or lack thereof) of god. The person who I was talking with had a very unique explanation for why he believed that god existed. It was one that I had never heard before and it certainly hurt my brain a little to consider it. The argument was derived from mathematics, assuming that existence itself was akin to a mathematical equation with an end result of 0. That is, for every thing that we can determine with logic, we have a value of 1. Thus, by definition, we must also have an illogical and unobservable -1 to balance it out.
We can imagine 1; that is easy: the value of something existing is 1 and the value of something not existing is 0. Can we imagine -1? Only as a subtraction for a quantity, but not as an actual state of existence. However, in this argument, -1 is god, the balance necessary to reconcile the equation of existence. This is a compelling concept, but who says we need to view the world as an equation anyways? After all, mathematics is a language, not a system. We use it to describe our world in the most comprehensive way possible, but it is not always useful for every situation.
The language of mathematics is always evolving and, like any language, reflects the culture that employs it. The Babylonians, in 300 BC, used base-60 (same as our time measurement system) and invented the concept of 0 as they created the first written notation for a figure that represented nothing, or the absence of all things. Roman numerals have no 0, this is because a symbol's value is determined by the other symbols around it. This all goes to show that our modern system of math is just one of many ways to look at the universe and is not necessarily the defining lens of clarity that we seek. To tie the existence of god to math is just another way of filling the gaps in our knowledge with the assumption of a higher power.
We won't stop there because the argument is not dead yet. Even if we don't use math to debunk this, we should still address the concept of a -1 existence. Singularities are discontinuities in logic, points along the logical scale that don't seem to follow the rules that all the other points do. To explain how singularities can be found in our interpretation of the world, let's look at black holes as we currently understand them. We cannot know for sure what is at the center of a black hole, but we can apply mathematics and quantum physics to their evidence to derive theories. For example, we know that black holes condense space itself because of their light-distorting properties when observed in front of other cosmic objects. These same mathematics lead us to the conclusion that at the center of a black hole exists a singularity where matter is condensed to an infinite density, with infinite gravitational pull and zero volume. If you think about it, zero volume is another way of saying that something doesn't exist, but that is not actually the case. When it comes to black holes, matter is just condensed beyond the means of explanation that our current systems provide.
This missing link in our understanding is another crack for theists to slip the existence of god into. That is why the argument is referred to as "god of the gaps." It is yet another idea borne of our lack of understanding rather than what we do understand.
Many thought experiments use the doubt employed by "god of the gaps" to shake our understanding of what we already know quite well. By stating that something cannot be observed thus allowing infinite possibilities, these experiments attempt to make us think two things: that what we have learned through science is not reliable and that reality is in the eye of the beholder. But science is reliable enough and no matter what anyone observes, there is only one reality.
You might have heard of Schrodinger's cat, but a more basic example of that conundrum is the timeless question: if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, did it make a sound? This follows the idea that something only exists once it can be observed, and until that point any number of alternate possibilities could be true. In my opinion, this is only a question asked by the truly neurotic thinkers. Science exists to help us make predictions about the future based on past observations. So yes, if I know anything about the world, the tree did make a sound. Observe one that doesn't make a sound and then I'll start thinking. And the cat? It is and has been whatever it is observed to be.
But I'd like it to be thought dead, along with the argument.
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Don't Feed the Animals is a blog, written by Andrew Gonsalves, about humans: how we act, how we mate, how we talk and how we live. The term "Don't Feed the Animals" is a vague reference to a page in Chuck Palahniuk's book Choke where the narrator describes how animals in a zoo, stripped of all necessity to use their natural survival instincts, resort to masturbating all day in their cages. As society progresses and technology allows us to take the most basic things for granted, we're left with inventing innumerable ways to occupy ourselves during all the free time we have. We make the cage our home.

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Just to play along for a second with the thesis ... a good question to ask is if our frame of reference, from a relativistic point of view, is but one of the many, and, perhaps, God is much like us and operating under the same laws of physics (and consciousness for that matter), but in a frame of reference that is beyond our comprehension and feeble attempts to analyze. However, since the laws of physics apply equally, everywhere, in his frame of reference, he's probably eating potato chips and chatting with his buddies online while infinite rheams of time happen within our univere's frame of referrence's CPU cycles. Opps! he's reaching for the power button. 5 trillion years later ... the universe expands to absolute zero; off until the next reboot. Let there be Light!
For me, it doesn't really bother me if God (whatever that would be) exists or not. It bothers me when people tell me what he wants me to be like, how he wants me to behave. I still don't understand, since they say he's almighty, why doesn't he speak for himself? Why does he always have others speaking for him and so many times abusing his 'good' name?
From how I see reality, there's no higher power meddling in our earthly affairs. That leads to two possibilities: Either there is no higher power or there is one, but it doesn't meddle in our earthly affairs.
Why does the flip side of existence necessarily HAVE to be God? Surely the -1 could also be chance, evolution etc. To me, god is merely a manifestation of our lack of knowledge about the ins and outs of our existence.
Your blog post definitely made me think, and I enjoyed browsing your other posts. Thanks for sharing.
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it saddens me that even in the civilized world there's some people that still question the existence of God (referring to the above commentors). science does not doubt the existence of God, it actually establishes His being, a higher power beyond all our comprehension and knowledge combined. even Einstein believe in God.
anyway, i like the whole blog. i'm now subscribing here!
I agree with your point overall but plz. don't confuse a nummerical system with Math. As you say, math is a language, an very explicit language at it. Mathematical truths are the same regardless of the numerical system used as long as that system is consistent, i.e. it has to express the notion of 0 or no quantity. For example most complex math today is done only using symbols that represent values.
Great post and great blog!
I was going to write a relevant comment about this post, but quite frankly wasn't able to because of how awful this text area is.
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Thanks... I'll let Google know that their interface sucks. Can I have my meaningful comment now?
I don't understand why an idea so large has followers that insist on keeping a their diety so small and regimented.
The things I know about my own personal connection to the universe of source of life is huge and free flowing.
I would never EVER choose to listen to someone speaking on behalf of "God?". One thing I can say for Christian religion in the U.S. is they do a very poor job of choosing spokesmodels.
My simple belief is availing your life to a source larger than you should open you up to the world, not close you off in in sanctimonious shadow boxes.
The whole "numbers" thing in your entry just muddles the simple nugget of having some sort of creator.
I think we have had so many generations of people in the U.S. raised on the concept that we can "think" ourselves into a spiritual existence. Which isn't true.
Our spirits already know. It is more like remembering than learning.
If someone has to have "PROOF" of anything they just need to look around and see that there is an undeniable force of creation happening every moment.
Put a Caladium bulb in the ground, which looks like poodle excrement. When those incredible leaves with pinks and greens appear its proof to me.
What ever the power is that can pull that beauty out of a bulb that looks like a poodle poo is enough God for me.
Not to sound too Hippy Dippy, the flow that runs through all of life, which brings forth into being is a creative force is all the deity I need.
Whether it is creating art, a blog, or a joke, when I have a part in bringing something into existence that wasn't there previously I am with GOD for lack of a bigger better word.
I have enjoyed your thoughts so much and I wish I had a contemplater, a thinker and a wordsmith in my circle of friends that could challenge and inspire me as much as some of the things you create here on your blog.
You see the "more" just beneath the "least" and that is really exciting because I do too.
I don't need to have a finite definition of "GOD", because I don't really need that to help identify who I am in the world and what is my place.
It's so much more simpler than humans want to make it. lol
Clinton
Filler of Gaps with Words.
But science is reliable enough and no matter what anyone observes, there is only one reality.
great line
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